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sooperqper (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
The fact is that they DID know the cards of the opponents, it was not collusion but a player with an administrator account in the site :-\
sunntzu (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
Just asking. How would that help? You still would have to see the cards though, and each person still couldn't see the opponents hand without either having the spreed-sheet read out of the history or a hack of some sort? Say, I have 5 people at a table and we're in collusion. But, how does that help against the other 4 players who's hand we still can not see?
timmyblaze (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
I really hope Karma catches up with these yuppie douchebags...
SwedeSDMF (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
You're a complete idiot.... I don't know how else to put it. Simply an idiot.... I cannot even begin to address how stupid your statement is on so many levels - it's mind bending. Please don't procreate for the sake of all mankind.
jerw99 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
Shocking! Unbelievable. But I always suspected something like this. I'm not a high roller by any means. Certain people just win too often with the crappy cards they play. I see in the video that the cheater slow plays several times to hook the victims in.
ICONCRUSHER (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
"REGULATION" won't solve the prob- not at all; as long as these sites are run by criminal coder frauds... & that's the way it will always be. Plus they'll never stop collusion... Pokerstars encourages this. Only site no clear evidence against yet is Full Tilt--- but some seemingly shady things go on there also. Research it.
stevefrommi (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
The really important question on my mind is whether or not obtaining the code from Hamilton could allow them to know what cards would be coming up.
beboobeboo (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
that's what 60 minutes does. They're old farts who are late to the party on everything. They actually said "world wide web," which tells you how old they are. Do the idiots at 60 minutes not realize that the only way they're going to stop people from getting cheated is to make online poker legal and regulated? They made the case for regulation and LEGALIZATION by showing that this scam happened! By instituting a full ban on poker, you just allow a black market to exist.
beboobeboo (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
I'm sure collusion occurs to some degree, but you can ask the card room to look into it if you suspect it, and they will issue you a full report on their findings. I have done it myself. They look for things like frequency of play together, common links such as geographic location, and the actual hand history itself for things like pot building, squeezing, etc. The reason the best sites keep their business is because they are fair. Sites have EVERYTHING to gain by ensuring integrity of games
pingnak (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
What you people don't understand is that YOU DO NOT NEED A HACK to cheat at on-line poker, or most other on-line card games, for that matter.What if several (or all) of the other people simply log in and talk to each other on a conference call, or sit in the same room? They chat on the keyboard, they tell each other the cards off-line where you can't hear or see what's happening.On-line card games are irredeemably crooked. |